Film Photography Project RetroChrome 400 Color Slide Film - Expired

I think I have wasted enough money on expired 35mm films.

I think I have wasted enough money on expired 35mm films. The recent experience exposing an expired roll of Kodak GT 800-4 35mm film was disappointing. My [first time exposing a 35mm roll of Film Photography Project (FPP) RetroChrome 400] Color Slide Film was a couple of years ago using an Asahi Spotmaic II. At the time, I was relearning film photography, and I blamed myself and my camera for the crappy result. This time I know that the problem is not me. The problem is not my camera. It’s the film.

Ok, I admit that the decision to use this film is mine and that I did not carefully read the literature on the Film Photography Project website.

RetroChrome is government surplus High Speed Eastman Ektachrome color positive film/daylight balanced.

The film is cold-stored 2004 expired. The film performs excellent at its intended box speed of 400 iso which leads us to believe that this film has been stored in the “deep freeze” for the past decade.

Argh!!!!

I like the look of Kodak Ektachrome E100G, a roll of which I exposed for the first time a few years ago. I think I underexposed that first roll, but the results were still quite good. Ektachrome E100 is a color reversal camera film known for its beautiful color. Like most slide films, it has a super fine grain, rich saturated colour, and is excellent for daylight exposures.

On the other hand, the grainy, washed-out colours of FPP RetroChrome 400 with grey shadows devoid of detail was disappointing. I shot this film at box speed in bright daylight on a winter afternoon, but the frames appear as if they are underexposed. Had I known this, I would have maybe exposed set my XD-11 to expose at ISO 300 or 200.

It is not at all what I had expected. Furthermore, FPP RetroChrome 400 is expensive, almost as expensive as Ektachrome. I can understand that some people may like the look of FPP RetroChrome 400. I don’t know why?

I have made a decision. I will carefully read the notes for any 35mm film I purchase going forward. I will not buy any more expired 35mm films. I like predictable results.

Name FPP RetroChrome 400.
Type Colour (reversal)
Native ISO 400
Format 35mm
Process E-6
Lab Boutique Film Labs
Scanner Epson Perfection V600
Software SilverFast 9 SE
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400
12 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7 | FPP RetroChrome 400

Kodak Max Zoom (GT 800-4) Colour Film - Expired

After exposing this roll of film during the winter holidays, I was excited to get the negatives back from Boutique Film Lab. But when I scanned the negatives, my excitement turned to disappointment.

After exposing this roll of film during the winter holidays, I was excited to get the negatives back from Boutique Film Lab. But when I scanned the negatives, my excitement turned to disappointment. As you can see, my results were horrid. The scans were absent the fantastic colours, fine detail and photo clarity I had expected from this high-speed 35mm film. Kodak GT 800 Color Print 35mm film was touted as delivering fine grain and sharpness unmatched by other 800-speed 35mm films. I expected crisp, clear pictures beaming with vibrant colours across various lighting conditions.

What I got was "mud". I blamed myself. I had severely exposed this 35mm film or damaged it somehow.

But after I commented about the tedium of film scanning on a post on Fuji X Weekly, Ritchie Roesch responded with this comment.

That does sound tedious, but if it gets you the results you want, then it's worth it. Was the film expired? It's my understanding that Kodak stopped production on GT 800-4 a while ago. Unless they brought it back?

I quickly jumped on Google, and within seconds I learned. It was an expired film. I'm such a doofus. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I purchased it.

Yeah, expired can either be very interesting or very bad and unfortunately, you don't know how it will go until after it's been shot. Also, the development has to be changed. I forget the calculation, but the extra time has to be given for every so many year expired. ~ Ritchie Roesch

Ugh. Some photographers may enjoy unexpected results. I do not. I think I'll stay away from expired 35mm film. The frames were scanned using SilverFast 9 SE with my Epson Perfection V600 scanner and then processed with Negative Lab Pro.

Name Kodak Max Zoom (GT 800-4)
Type Colour (negative)
Native ISO 800
Format 35mm
Process C-41
Lab Boutique Film Labs
Scanner Epson Perfection V600
Software SilverFast 9 SE, Negative Lab Pro
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7
18 December, 2021 | Minolta XD-11 | MD ROKKOR-X 50mm F1.7

Kodachrome 64 Memories

Early in my photography journey, shooting in 35mm B&W film was easier. I thought 35mm colour film was too distracting and did not have the pretension “art” look I was into at the time. But a few years later, I found myself experimenting with 35mm colour film including a lot of crap films. But I also tried out now famous 35mm films such as Kodachrome. I don't know if I ever exposed Kodachrome 25 or Kodachrome 200 but I found a set of slides of Kodachrome 64 among my things in the basement.

According to the B&H website which list this as Kodak KR 135-36 Kodachrome 64 Color Slide Film (ISO-64):

Kodachrome 64 is an extremely fine grain film demonstrating very high sharpness. It is an excellent choices for a wide variety of applications. The history and reputation of Kodachrome films is legendary. They possess a "look" that is hard to reproduce in more contemporary films.

Kodachrome 64 is a member of the "Select Series" of Kodak films. The Select Series offers serious snapshooters and photo enthusiasts the widest selection of high-performance films. Choose from Kodachrome or Kodak Elite Chrome films for slides, or Royal Gold films for prints.

The date on the box containing the slides is 26 July 1989. I scanned the slides with my Epson Perfection V600. Some of the exposure appears to be test shots take in the camera store. Looking at the images of the stores accross the street taken from inside the camera store, I see an address that apepars to be 7008 Third Avenue. I would love to find out what was at 7008 Third Avenye in New York City circa 1989. I do not remember why I chose to expose this roll at my cousin's wedding.

Type: 35mm color slide film
Speed: ISO 64
Applications: General photographic outdoor use
Process: Process K-14
Color Saturation: Produces rich, vibrant colors with a strong pallette
Grain: Fine
Sharpness: Very high
Exposure Latitude: Narrow

Cousins Tony and Colin Cozier | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2
Beverly and Karen | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2
David Jackson | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2
Grand Dad Edmund Williams and Samantha Williams | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2
Beverly | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2
David Jackson and Roseanne Pompey | 26 July, 1989 | Pentax P3 | SMC Pentax-A 50mm f/2