Micro.blog and IndieWeb

Posted on Sunday, 19th August 2018 9:25 AM EDT

Wrapping My Head Around Micro.blog and IndieWeb by Jason Sadler (sadlerjw.com)

You can pay $5 a month to get them to host your microblog, but by adopting some web standards like RSS and webmentions, you can host your microblog on your own site. If you’re on WordPress you can publish to your site using the Microblog iOS and Mac apps. Replies are a bit of a bugbear, though: they’re handled entirely within Micro.blog if initiated using the app’s Reply functionality, or threaded in properly if you post from your own site with the proper webmention URL.

As a security architect I often have to create policies, procedures, and guidelines. It can be a challenge to get everything right.

Based on what is written in the micro.blog community guidelines, from my perspective the hosted blogs are not really independent.

E.g.

Blog content hosted by Micro.blog will be subject to the community guidelines below.

The following will not be tolerated in @-replies or in posts (including photos) that appear on Micro.blog.

However, I think the community has perceived that they have 100% control over content post on their hosted micro.blog domain. A consequences of violating the guidelines:

Posting to Micro.blog-hosted sites will be temporarily or permanently disabled.

Based on my understanding of these guidelines, micro.blog is a moderated silo. It's no different from WordPress.com or Tumblr. I don't know whether micro.blog will be a successful alternative to people fleeing Twitter, Facebook, et al. But I feel I've seen this movie before.

My self-hosted WordPress website has been around since 2005. Last year, I started using the IndieWeb plugins. Lot's growing pains. Lots of manual effort in some places. I have since backed off from trying to work around the challenges. I felt like one of those people who spends more time tweaking the engine of the car than actually driving it.

But it's my home stead. I'm not in publishing or marketing but I don't want to build my presence on the web on rental property.

I apologize if this sounds critical but I’ve operated my own domain for 13 years and I have 100% editorial control over my content. Perhaps this is something for Manton to discuss with the community to clarify the intent of the guidelines and endure that community expectations and understanding of those guidelines are aligned.

3 thoughts on “Micro.blog and IndieWeb”

  1. The Micro.blog experience and a few thoughts on the open web (Beardy Guy Musings)
    I write this and mull it over from the perspective of a creator and as a longer-term user of the “old web”. I have, at least, a basic grasp of the ideal (and importance of) the open web, ownership and access. I write it as someone frustrated with the nastiness of the business practices of the corporate entities that own the big social media as well as the lack of moderation on those sites making them potentially dangerous places. But even amongst the relatively tech fluent (and likely, financially affluent) community of tech/apple oriented users that I follow on Twitter, there is little impulse to move to alternatives such as Micro.blog or Mastodon. I’ve seen evidence of an almost complete lack of interest.
    As one of those "old web" guys who has been blogging for almost two decades, I understand this anguish over the open web. I've seen the rise and fall of alternative like app.net and despite what others may think, micro.blog's success isn't ensured. The lack of diversity, both cultural and economic, is perhaps why the "relatively tech fluent (and likely, financially affluent) community of tech/apple oriented users" ignore micro.blog. It's one of the reasons why, despite having backed the Kickstarter project, I chose to let my hosted micro.blog lapse and use micro.blog more like Twitter. Both are free but Twitter is less of an echo chamber.
    I visit micro.blog only a few times a month now. The discovery feed is boring.
    I've documented my issues with micro.blog in several blog posts. I don't expect anything to change in the near term.Community Norms?Thoughts on micro.blogMicro.blog and IndieWebYou Can't Start the Revolution from the Web Country ClubGoing Full Indie
    Others have voiced similar complaints.Why I'm leaving Micro.blogPhoneBoy abandons micro.blog
    I prefer the approach advocated by the IndieWeb and have also written about the issue of discovery for independent blogs who don't use social media.Share:TwitterFacebookLike this:Like Loading...Related

  2. I feel ya. The IndieWeb seems enchanting, Micro.blog seems like a nice community, all of the learnings from app.net seem to have been learnt, but when you look under the hood -

    IndieWeb is a moving target, I've not yet seen a 'shipped' thing that I can trust.
    Micro.blog IS a silo (wholeheartedly agree with you)
    app.net is a story that will repeat.

    I've just resorted to WordPress comments. Simplest thing. Also, I have my own 'liveblog' which I just use as an RSS feed and entry point to post everywhere else I want to syndicate. That'll live longer than any of these. I don't care for comment support on that thing because it's more about my own thoughts than the conversations around it.

    If any conversation becomes something real, it's worth blogging about.

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