2019-02-09 08.20.23 by Daniel Goldsmith (

If you put my “work” on your car, then use that for the purpose of profit, then you have taken my labour for your profit. If you want to put my work on a mug and sell for profit, then that’s also not ok. If you want to do either, then you can contact me and seek permission to do so. My Labour,...

Thanks for the clarification, Daniel. I think I understand your position now. You want to be able to license your work -- I will call it the Ascraeus License for shorthand -- for use by any natural person or organization in such a way that they derive no financial gain from your work. I agree that there are versions of the Creative Commons License that meet that requirement.

There is no dichotomy. I am not defending FOSS or any other licensing scheme. But your seems rant again FOSS licenses makes no sense to me given that the license is being used EXACTLY as intended. The license was intentionally designed to prevent restrictions on usage. Just like freedom of speech.

WIth my examples, I was trying to get at the idea that your work could be used in a way that indirectly produces financial gain, but my examples were poor.

In the second circumstance, if the theoretical “poor person” is replaced with a collective or a mutual aid organisation, then I want that collective to be free to derive use from my works.

You mentioned CC-BY-NC-SA. Can you clarify why that license doesn't meet your needs? How would you word the Ascraeus License? What would be the legal rights of the licensee of Ascraeus Licensed works?

I am curious as to how you would word a license to make it clear what type of usage is allowed ("the relatively poor person") and what isn't allowed ("a person with relative wealth").

But I don't think a new type of license is needed. I think you can get exactly what you want by saying "contact me for licensing terms". Then you are free to write up any terms you want on an individual basis. That's what my friend who are professional photographers do. Each usage is on a case by case.

"Making bank" means to make money, get enough to pay your bills or expenses with excess, acquire money etc. or acquiring a significant amount of money in a short time period.

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  • Daniel Goldsmith
    9th February 2019 at 2:24 PM

    But I don’t just want to get people to contact me.

    I want to create a healthy ecosystem which permits use and exploration of content, with strong protections against commercial exploitation. That’s not possible if insisting that every user has to contact me all the time to see if their use is covered.

    My “Rant” against FOSS isn’t a rant against FOSS - rather it is a cri du couer against the nullspace of Social Freedoms at the heart of the (frankly risible) FOSS “Movement”. There are generations of [b|p]rogrammers who honestly believe that code is the sole Freedom worth fighting for - who appear to regard any discourse of Social (or Economic for that matter) Rights as “political” and think that their stance is apolitical.

    I lay the blame for that right at RMS’s door, and extend that to the people who enable and facilitate that attitude. It is a political stance, one that centres privilege and corporate control above all else. And I’m tired of it.

    • Khürt Williams
      9th February 2019 at 3:52 PM

      Daniel, got it! I'm not sure the kind of license (it's a contract) you are seeking can be written in a general sense. It would leave the licensecee at risk of violation given that the "what I can do with this" depends on who you are and who you are changes. I am a private citizen, I am also the owner of a consulting company, I also do work for non-profits, etc.

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